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Re: Attention VOTE: Battle of the Films « Reply #2403 on Dec 9, 2008, 7:19pm »
Round 2 Battle 87 Southwest region (Bracket 2) 3 seed Ran (Kurosawa) A story of Greed, a lust for power, and ultimate revenge. The Great Lord Hidetora Ichimonji (Tatsuya Nakadai) has decided to step aside to make room for the younger blood of his three sons, Taro (Akira Terao), Jiro (Jinpachi Nezu), and Saburo (Daisuke Ryu). The Lord's only wish now being to live out his years as an honored guest in the castle of each of his sons in turn. While the older two sons flatter their father, the youngest son attempts to warn him of the folly of expecting the three sons to remain united, enraged at the younger sons' attempt to point out the danger, the father banishes him. True to the younger sons' warning however, the Oldest Son soon conspires with the Second Son to strip The Great Lord of everything, even his title. The story follows the decent of the old man into madness, the machinations of treachery and deceit by the two older sons and their downfall, and the loyalty of the youngest who ultimately rescues his father. But in the end it is the past deeds of The Great Lord that bring on the final battle and end the era of the Lord Hidetora and his clan.
vs. 11 seed City of God (Meirelles) Brazil, 1960's, City of God. The Tender Trio robs motels and gas trucks. Younger kids watch and learn well...too well. 1970's: Li'l Zé has prospered very well and owns the city. He causes violence and fear as he wipes out rival gangs without mercy. His best friend Bené is the only one to keep him on the good side of sanity. Rocket has watched these two gain power for years, and he wants no part of it. Yet he keeps getting swept up in the madness. All he wants to do is take pictures. 1980's: Things are out of control between the last two remaining gangs...will it ever end? Welcome to the City of God
Ran isn't an exercise in style? What do you call the millions of dollars spent on the movie? The excessive shots of color, whose only purpose is to give you and other half-assed critics something to masturbate about?
Really now, even if you did like Ran, how much do you remember about it? Could you actually keep every character's name straight?
The answers you'd give still wouldn't interest me, because really, all you would give me is the answers to your Filmy Film 101 class about how "important" the movie is in a historical context and how much other people like it.
Besides, I doubt you've actually "received" anything from Ran. What did you learn from the movie? Did it make you a better person?
I really doubt you have, so it's no better than watching a three hour music video, if you completely ignore the substance of a movie. The only difference is, you can hide behind its reputation.
You can say you've seen it, you could even have watched it, saw all the pretty colors, and read up about it later, but I doubt Ran actually made any bit of impact on you. And just supporting the movie is enough: no one would double check you. They'd just congratulate you for liking the movie.
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Re: Attention VOTE: Battle of the Films « Reply #2412 on Dec 12, 2008, 9:39am »
Round 2 Battle 88 Northeast region (Bracket 2) 3 seed Woman in the Dunes (Teshigahara) An amateur entomologist searching for insects by the sea is trapped by local villagers into living with a mysterious woman who spends almost all her time preventing her home from being swallowed up by advancing sand dunes. The woman and the trapped man begin a strange and erotic relationship that stretches over years, as the man's hope for escape dims.
vs. 6 seed Offret (Tarkovsky) Alexander, a journalist and former actor and philosopher, tells his little son how worried he is about the lack of spirituality of modern mankind. In the night of his birthday, the third world war breaks out. In his despair Alexander turns himself in a prayer to God, offering him everything to have the war not happened at all.
Ran isn't an exercise in style? What do you call the millions of dollars spent on the movie? The excessive shots of color, whose only purpose is to give you and other half-assed critics something to masturbate about?
Really now, even if you did like Ran, how much do you remember about it? Could you actually keep every character's name straight?
The answers you'd give still wouldn't interest me, because really, all you would give me is the answers to your Filmy Film 101 class about how "important" the movie is in a historical context and how much other people like it.
Besides, I doubt you've actually "received" anything from Ran. What did you learn from the movie? Did it make you a better person?
I really doubt you have, so it's no better than watching a three hour music video, if you completely ignore the substance of a movie. The only difference is, you can hide behind its reputation.
You can say you've seen it, you could even have watched it, saw all the pretty colors, and read up about it later, but I doubt Ran actually made any bit of impact on you. And just supporting the movie is enough: no one would double check you. They'd just congratulate you for liking the movie.
This is the last time I'm going to be tempted into responding to you again in any form of human communication, so I'll gladly counter.
Firstly, I'm glad you mentioned the excessive use of color. I masturbate often to these images, and always look for an excuse to bring them up in conversation. Really, colors are all I need in a movie. From Kieslowski to Kurosawa, if you put beautiful colors on anything in a movie, I'm sold. Of course, critics would agree with me, because critics and I are the same breed. We are people too stupid to understand movies the way ie does.
I honestly don't remember anything about Ran. I'm sure there were actors, characters, some dialogue in there somewhere. But who cares? If you like these things, you watch movies for the wrong reasons. I don't expect to ever be a better person than what I am, so watching movies to improve myself is a futile exercise. I am already the perfect form of myself.
Wow, you completely predicted me correctly. Everything I mentioned here was exactly what Professor Hitchcock told me. I no longer have taste anyway. I'm one human-sized conditioned response twitching in a theater seat.
I see you put a lot of effort into trying to convince me of the impossible, so I'm sorry to disappoint you. I know you get a lot of satisfaction in confronting people you will never meet, you will never know. Labeling people as presumed idiots has always brought you great pleasure. If there's anything I can do to help you with this in the future, let me know
I really doubt you have, so it's no better than watching a three hour music video, if you completely ignore the substance of a movie. The only difference is, you can hide behind its reputation.
You can say you've seen it, you could even have watched it, saw all the pretty colors, and read up about it later, but I doubt Ran actually made any bit of impact on you. And just supporting the movie is enough: no one would double check you. They'd just congratulate you for liking the movie.
I actually agree with this. Not particularly against swiney, but in general.
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