Spider-Man 4 (Sam Raimi; 2009)

[criterionmaster]

Who'll Be the Villains in "Spider-Man 4"?
Posted by Scott Weinberg on Monday, May. 07, 2007, 12:55 AM
Source: Hollywood Saloon

Scott Weinberg writes: "It's a very amusing game for those who adore comic books and movies in equal measure: Not only who'll be playing which role in the next superhero flicks, but which characters will be making their big-screen debuts. One source seems to know a little something about "Spider-Man 4."

According to Freeze Dried Movies, whose source once got the Venom scoop right a while back, the villains who'll most likely pop up in "Spider-Man 4" are: Lizard, Carnage, and Black Cat. (Again we're mixing "classic era" villains with the new-fangled ones, despite the damage, in my opinion, that did to "Spider-Man 3.")

Word is that screenwriter David Koepp might be brought back to the series for the next go-round, what with the latest Spidey flick thwapping every box office record in the books, but obviously we won't know who's writing / directing / returning until Sony wants us to know. Until then we can enjoy the Speculation Game.

Frankly I've been waiting for Dylan Baker to turn into Lizard for over five years now. And this Carnage character looks really damn freaky. Dare I wonder if this character might be a bit too 'dark' for a "Spider-Man" movie?

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[dontdigonswine]

Still think Scorpion would be a good villain, since they've already introduced J Jonah Jameson's desire to catch Spider-Man being a bad guy. I can understand putting Carnage as a villain in the 4th, with the commercial success the 3rd one has gotten with Venom. Black Cat should be interesting. Maybe they'll screw up the characters even more by using a short cut and having Gwen Stacy's character turn into her. Hey, then she'll actually serve a purpose in the movie. I know this is all speculation, but Lizard is, dare I say, pretty much a for sure thing for the 4th one?

[PTAhole]

Lizard would be perfect I think. I don't want Carnage at all. I always hated Carnage. He's just a poor man's Venom.

[malicious32dll]

...spiderman 4..

[mixed]

They fucked the franchise in the ass enough in this lame third installment, a fourth isn't necessary if they're to continue in that vein of poorly disjointed stories and weak fight scenes. Bringing chjaracters we loved in the comics to the screen and fucking them up.

[slapshot63]

Carnage is pointless now because in SM3, Venom said he liked being bad, which was the basis for Carnage. In the comics, Venom didn't like being bad, he just was. Carnage on the other hand, LOVED being bad and just being a bastard.

[criterionmaster]

Cromwell Talks Spider-Man 4?
Source: MTV May 15, 2007

MTV has posted a quote from James Cromwell talking about Spider-Man 4:

But never fear comic fans, the Stacy family will have a much bigger role to play in future installments, veteran actor James Cromwell told MTV News. Asked if his character, Captain George Stacy, meets the same grisly end in "Spider-Man 3" that he does in the comics, Cromwell playfully replied, "They haven't shot that [scene] yet. That's the next one."

Not much has been confirmed for the fourth Spidey yet, other than that David Koepp is writing the screenplay.

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[ie]

criterionmaster said:

Who'll Be the Villains in "Spider-Man 4"?

Here are the villains that will be in emo-friendly Spider-Man 4:

• Jocks
  
• Cute girls
  
• Popular kids
  
• ie
  
• Nerds
  
• Authority figures
  
• Hair stylists
  
• Omes
  
• Bruce Lee
  
• Godzilla
  
• Basically, everyone
  

Me, pretending to be Raimi's Spider-Man:
"My wrists don't work!"

A friend of mine, pretending to be Raimi's Spider-Man:
"I better cut them to make them work better!"

[criterionmaster]

Oh God, he wasn't that emo in the movie. He wasn't acting depressed enough.

[malicious32dll]

I wasnt aware emo's (or whateverthefuck) did disco moves out in the street. Also, David Koepp... Isnt he the screenwriter for the second? If so, hopefully the new one should have a bit of a tighter woven plot, a little less action, etc.

[Clark Nova]

criterionmaster said:

Oh God, he wasn't that emo in the movie. He wasn't acting depressed enough.

I saw this movie opening weekend with 4 friends of mine. As soon as Tobey looked in the mirror and put that hair in front of one eye, all 4 blurted out "he's so emo." I rest my case.

[PTAhole]

malicious32dll said:

I wasnt aware emo's (or whateverthefuck) did disco moves out in the street. Also, David Koepp... Isnt he the screenwriter for the second? If so, hopefully the new one should have a bit of a tighter woven plot, a little less action, etc.

He wrote the first one. I agree with you to a point, although I liked the movie.

[criterionmaster]

police386 said:

criterionmaster said:

Oh God, he wasn't that emo in the movie. He wasn't acting depressed enough.

I saw this movie opening weekend with 4 friends of mine. As soon as Tobey looked in the mirror and put that hair in front of one eye, all 4 blurted out "he's so emo." I rest my case.

I can see that, I said, when that came up, "they are trying to make him emo or something,” since his hair was so short and they acted like putting your hair like that makes you emo or something anyway, it was stupid. But I don't know, after that he definitely didn't act emo, he was jumping around and stuff. I just get irritated when I hear people talking about emo Spider-Man.

[criterionmaster]

Who Would Curtis Like as the Spidey 4 Villain?[/b]
Source: iF Magazine May 29, 2007

Now don't go running off and posting on Blogs, etc., that The Lizard will be the villain in Spider-Man 4! This is not an announcement, but instead producer Grant Curtis talked to iF Magazine about who he thinks would make a good villain:

For me it's hard to beat the Lizard, it truly is. That's just me talking. I think the Lizard has got a great story of not only personal pain but also emotional pain, and trying to mask both of those, it's a strong storyline. The Lizard has always been a favorite of mine, even before working on these movies. I've always liked Kraven The Hunter, but he'd have to be used selectively. For me though it would have to be the Lizard.

It is, of course, very possible that The Lizard will become the (or one of the) villain(s) in the fourth film, but it's just too early to tell.

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[criterionmaster]

Sam Raimi May Not Helm 'Spider-Man 4'; Wants Electro, Vulture As Villains If He Does
'I just don't know what [my] future holds yet,' director says.
source: hollywood saloon

WESTWOOD, California — As of this week, "Spider-Man 3" is the 11th-highest-grossing film worldwide of all time — and like its web-headed hero, it's still climbing. The fans have spoken, the critics have been silenced and there's plenty more Peter Parker to come.

But in his first post-"Spidey 3" interview, series director Sam Raimi went out of his way to leave the door open for someone else to take the reins.

"Sony Pictures is going to be making many more 'Spider-Man' pictures," Raimi told MTV News Friday night. "I just don't know what [my] future holds yet."

In Los Angeles to honor young filmmakers whose Spidey spoofs won a contest sponsored by Target, Raimi admitted that the collection of eager-eyed directors reminded him of "better-looking, smarter versions of myself." With several of the winners' speeches referencing Raimi's '80s career of low-budget flicks like "Crimewave" and the "Evil Dead" movies, it was hard not to appreciate that Raimi had ascended to the opposite end of the spectrum.

But from what he told us after the ceremony, it sounds like the filmmaker is setting the stage to bow out while he's on top. "If I can't find the right story that would work for me and that I could tell really well, I would like someone else to tell that story," he said of the already-announced "Spider-Man 4."

Amending his statement, he added, "But if it's a great story and Sony will bring me back to the screen, I would love to."

Indeed, it might be Sony that ultimately chooses to end the partnership, which could be a result of Raimi's still-standing pact with Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst that either they all return or none of them does (see "Kirsten Dunst On Singing, Spidey's Future, 'Idol' — And Having Eight Kids?"). "It would be really hard for me to make a movie without Tobey and Kirsten playing the two leads," he said. "I would seriously think about James [Franco] too, but he bit the dust in this last one."

Ultimately, if Sony considers the price tag too high for another Raimi/Maguire/Dunst collaboration, then the negotiations would turn to keeping Raimi onboard as a producer only. "I would still hope that Sony would offer it to me [to direct] first," he said. "But that is not my place to say; it would be more about if Sony decided not to go with me. If not, it would be really up to them to come to a solution [for me to still be involved as a producer]."

Either way, if this tangled web does still involve the filmmaker, Raimi has been busy brainstorming about the villains he'd like to get into the next flick. "I would love to see Electro, Vulture, maybe the Sinister Six as a team," he said.

Those three possibilities wouldn't necessarily cancel each other out. Since both were founding members of the Six, the Soviet supervillain and high-flying supergenius could appear in the next flick, be teamed with a returning Doctor Octopus and Sandman and form a supergroup to also introduce Mysterio and Kraven the Hunter.

Whether that story line works out or not, Raimi hopes to finally reward Dylan Baker's patience with a villainous payoff similar to what Franco enjoyed in "3." "I love Dylan Baker as a person, and I really like the character he is developing," the filmmaker said of Dr. Curt Connors, Parker's one-armed, screen-time-challenged professor in the first three flicks.

"The Lizard is probably one of my favorite characters," he said of the baddie Connors eventually became in the comics. (He joined the Sinister Six when they became the Sinister Twelve, by the way.) "But ['Spider-Man 4'] will probably have to start with the central journey of the main character to arrive at the proper villain."

Regardless of the future, the present "Spider-Man" universe is still being overseen by the affable filmmaker. Appearing at the Friday event with series producers Avi Arad and Grant Curtis to kick off this year's Los Angeles Film Festival, Raimi handed the top prize to boisterous Minnesota filmmaker Justin Marshall, who won with a stop-motion action-figure short called "Rise of the Super Venom, Part 1."

"These filmmakers show a tremendous amount of promise," said Raimi, who judged the contest alongside his "Spidey" producers. "They have a lot of craftsmanship skills that are very developed for their early ages. They have a good sense of presentation, camera angle, oftentimes good pace, and they know how to put a soundtrack together. I thought it was very impressive."

After the awards were handed out, Raimi spent a very generous amount of time posing for photos, signing autographs and having individual conversations with Marshall and the runners-up. As the winners milked him for advice, Raimi spoke to every single person who approached (and he didn't even realize that a reporter was watching from a few feet away!).

"It's great having the Los Angeles Film Festival as a meeting ground where young filmmakers can meet other artists and share their ideas and other resources," Raimi said, moments after posing for his umpteenth picture. "I don't think there was ever anything like this, especially when I was in the early years of my career."

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[criterionmaster]

source: hollywood saloon

MTV caught up with Sam Raimi over the weekend, and (as most of us have done and will continually do until the man either throws a punch or gives up a plot point) hassled him about Spider-Man 4. Has anything changed since the director said he wasn't sure if he'd be helming a fourth installment? Kind of. A meeting has finally taken place between Raimi, Avi Arad and Laurie Ziskin -- they're "beginning to gear up to meet with writers" and Raimi still looks extremely uncomfortable in his own skin. The man still doesn't know if he will direct, but he does "want a hand in bringing it to the screen." As far as which villains will show up, Raimi has some ideas but would like to hear from writers on where they think Spidey should go from here.

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