sacrilegend
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Post by sacrilegend on Mar 4, 2007 13:59:24 GMT -5
No! I didn't...  Oh no! Try and send it again? Sorry for interrupting your list! Continue... |
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Post by kiddo on Mar 4, 2007 14:14:00 GMT -5
No problemo. I don't remember exactly what I wrote, but I'll try to write something sensible and relevant nevertheless. Oh, and thanks for the appreciation of my new/old avatar. I think it kind of suits the "personal text" under the avatar, in addition to the fact that I like the story and apparance of The Phantom of the Opera.
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Post by sacrilegend on Mar 4, 2007 14:18:00 GMT -5
I think so too, the other one just didn't justify "you". If that doesn't sound completely stupid.
My address is kayla.roux@ravemail.co.za (that may have been the problem, or not, but I'm just making sure)
See you, you lovely boy! I'm going to bed.
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Post by kiddo on Mar 5, 2007 5:38:03 GMT -5
Let me know if you got the email or not.
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Post by sacrilegend on Mar 5, 2007 6:24:58 GMT -5
I did, and just replied. Thank you!  |
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Post by kiddo on Mar 5, 2007 8:39:31 GMT -5
Sweet. I'll give you a reply when I get home from school (going to catch the bus in three minutes). Cheers!
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Post by sacrilegend on Mar 5, 2007 8:41:23 GMT -5
Okey dokey Lots and lost of love! |
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Post by criterionmaster on Mar 5, 2007 9:14:32 GMT -5
11. Elephant Man - Not a huge Elephant Man fan, I think it is just a good, well-made film, didn't do a whole lot for me, but I am glad you like that more than some of the other Lynch films. I can see why you like it too.
12. Taxi Driver - I have said thoughts on this before, it is a fucking masterpiece, and I am so glad it is on your list. I don't think it is Scorsese's best, but that doesn't matter since it is so good. DARK SCORSESE HO!
14. Godfather - A masterpiece, but I think I might like Part II a little more. I do think there are better gangster films, but this is still great.
15. Rio Bravo - Still dying to see this.
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Post by kiddo on Mar 5, 2007 10:13:10 GMT -5
The thing with The Elephant Man is that it touched me insanely when I first saw it... and the second time as well. I couldn't see any huge flaws either. It's extremely solid and great as a techincal achievement, and at the same time utterly poignant.
Taxi Driver is even better than Goodfellas and Raging Bull in my eyes. Content-wise at least; Raging Bull is maybe even more genuis/flawless cinematography-wise, but Taxi Driver is such a powerful and interesting film every time you see it.
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Post by sacrilegend on Mar 5, 2007 12:28:23 GMT -5
The thing with The Elephant Man is that it touched me insanely when I first saw it... and the second time as well. I couldn't see any huge flaws either. It's extremely solid and great as a techincal achievement, and at the same time utterly poignant. WOW, I know! I frigging hate it when people don't get into this film,it's a masterpiece that is defiled every time somebody watches it without watching it. |
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Post by ie on Mar 6, 2007 1:53:57 GMT -5
So, how about that Roger Ebert guy's thoughts on the Elephant Man? I've been meaning to see the Elephant Man again, but it's just been in the back of my mind for the longest of times. I think there are some flaws with it, but overall, I think those flaws are insignificant compared to the movie itself. |
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Post by sacrilegend on Mar 6, 2007 11:23:28 GMT -5
Hah. That man is now a fool in my eyes. Irrelevant opinion.
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Post by Clark Nova on Mar 6, 2007 13:21:35 GMT -5
So, how about that Roger Ebert guy's thoughts on the Elephant Man? I've been meaning to see the Elephant Man again, but it's just been in the back of my mind for the longest of times. I think there are some flaws with it, but overall, I think those flaws are insignificant compared to the movie itself. 99% of the time I admire and agree with roger ebert completely, but the 2 big examples i can think of where i thought he missed the mark both happened to be David Lynch films...his 2-star review of The Elephant Man and his inexcusable 1-star review of Blue Velvet. |
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Post by kiddo on Mar 6, 2007 13:28:15 GMT -5
I know what you mean. I respect Ebert to a pretty high degree and I think he has many great things to say about many films. And you know, you just can't expect to agree all the time with a reviewer. Roger Ebert has some, for me, wierd opinions, but he usually argument with such an admirable skill.
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Post by ie on Mar 7, 2007 1:11:01 GMT -5
Well, everyone's entitled to their opinions, but some people's opinions are just more valid to me than others, and Roger Ebert just seems to be one of those people whose opinion just doesn't match up with mine.
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Post by criterionmaster on Mar 7, 2007 8:05:18 GMT -5
I was reading through his review book with ptahole, and I was disagreeing with many of his opinions actually, since he reviews a film if it is a good family film or whatever, so he gave so many films three star reviews that suck. Overall though, I agree with a lot of the things he has to say about films, but still, he pisses me off sometimes. I do like him though.
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Post by wkw on Mar 7, 2007 11:58:13 GMT -5
he gave shit like Anaconda, Forrest Gump, and Crash 4 stars
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Post by sacrilegend on Mar 7, 2007 12:13:53 GMT -5
Backs my statement! Hah!
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Post by eatawiiner on Mar 7, 2007 12:42:42 GMT -5
....... and his inexcusable 1-star review of Blue Velvet. What a fucktard. |
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Post by Clark Nova on Mar 7, 2007 20:49:33 GMT -5
ah, his 4-star Crash review...there's another one that gets under my skin. I do think Forrest Gump's kind of overrated, but i won't really get on him for that...still a good movie.
he does have a tendency sometimes to give out 4-stars like it's candy...
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Post by criterionmaster on Mar 8, 2007 9:32:34 GMT -5
Yeah, exactly. He gives so many films such high ratings, and then the films he gives low ones just surprises the hell out of me sometimes.
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Post by malicious32dll on Mar 8, 2007 14:37:22 GMT -5
he gave shit like Anaconda, Forrest Gump, and Crash 4 stars man... wut?  I thought crash and Forrest Gump were amazing movies!?  For your sake, I took the liberty of modifying your post so it passes my rigorous standards. he gave shit like Anaconda 4 stars *cough* but I like Anaconda *cough* |
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Post by wkw on Mar 8, 2007 15:14:55 GMT -5
I didn't want to spew acid all over this thread, but it seems like I have to....
Forrest Gump is one of the most cliched, unrealistic, and pointless movie ever. I found nothing funny about having to pee in the oval room, or that he thinks "coon" stands for raccoon. It trivializes important historical events such as the Vietnam War, the Civil Rights movement, and the assassination of Kennedy. Sure it breezes past the surface of all the importance historical events from the 50's to 70's, but it gives absolutely no insight to any of them. Does any of them actually matter? No. Does Forrest learn anything from them? No. It feels like the writers are trying to have Forrest accomplish one incredible feat after another just for the sake of it while neglecting more importance aspects of the movie such as character development and a message that viewers and identify with.
I mean, can anyone tell me what this movie is trying to say? That ignorance is bliss? That if you do everything you are told in life that you will rewarded with fame and fortune? If you question your government, you will become a drug abuser, a prostitute, and will attempt suicide?
Forrest Gump is just another feel good piece of trash like Crash that the Academy falls for. This is likely the most offensive movie that I've ever seen. If life is like a box of chocolates, it must be a really bad box of chocolates. People are supposed to improve themselves and evolve. Gump encourages them to stagnate in their stupidity. Not only is it bad, but it insults your intelligence.
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Post by kiddo on Mar 8, 2007 15:35:24 GMT -5
I didn't want to spew acid all over this thread, but it seems like I have to.... Haha. No problem. It's too damn long since I saw Forrest Gump myself, so I couldn't possibly contribute in this debate. But your reasons for disliking the film seems very reasonable and clear. I would love some more debate around this, so please people: Post! |
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Post by Clark Nova on Mar 8, 2007 16:13:41 GMT -5
the point is that Forrest unknowingly contributed to so many famous and "important" moments in American history, but in the end, all that mattered was that he ended up with Jenny, the love of his life...it was like he was making a bee-line towards that one goal, and everything around him didn't matter, as long as true love prevailed. is it a sappy, melodramatic, and unrealistic theme? absolutely, but it's innocent and harmless enough.
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Post by kiddo on Mar 8, 2007 16:26:37 GMT -5
Hmm. That's also an interesting angle of approach. I remember it as very sticky, but as said, too long since I saw it.
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Post by criterionmaster on Mar 8, 2007 17:41:45 GMT -5
Okay, I may be bias since I saw the film when I was young, and grew up with the film. I really like it, I read your review before wkw and I can certainly see where you are coming from, but there are so many elements of the film to like. Gump is at times irritating, but at times I really like him, and the idea of going back through things that happened is an awesome one, not to mention the incredible performances. Hanks' is overrated, but the rest of the cast is really great. I also love the soundtrack. I mean the film isn't deep or anything, but it is fun as hell. There wasn't anything you liked about it?
As for Crash, I have heard shit about it, and don't want to watch it, but I will sometime.
Anaconda getting 4 stars makes me want to barf. I mean, that film is so bad it is entertaining, it is fucking ridiculous and just stupid.
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Post by wkw on Mar 9, 2007 4:33:52 GMT -5
Hanks' is overrated, but the rest of the cast is really great. Really? I thought Hanks was solid while the supporting cast was mediocre at best. Penn was bad, but that has more to do with her character than her. Sinise and Field were nothing special. I can understand how some people might find some of the jokes funny, though I just wasn't entertained by any of that. It's just one of those films that cannot engage me emotionally, intellectually, nor artistically. |
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Post by criterionmaster on Mar 9, 2007 8:06:53 GMT -5
Hanks' is overrated, but the rest of the cast is really great. Really? I thought Hanks was solid while the supporting cast was mediocre at best. Penn was bad, but that has more to do with her character than her. Sinise and Field were nothing special. I can understand how some people might find some of the jokes funny, though I just wasn't entertained by any of that. It's just one of those films that cannot engage me emotionally, intellectually, nor artistically. I didn't say Hanks was bad necessarily, I actually really like him in the film, but he is not deserving of all the praise he gets for his role. Sinise (sp?) I thought was amazing, Field I have always hated, but she gets by in her role. Penn was alright for the role, she didn't do anything that jumped out as amazing. But the rest of the supporting cast with all the smaller roles, are great too. You weren't even engaged artistically through the effects that put Gump back in all the old footage. I thought that was amazing and had never seen anything like it. It must have been something special or it seems like they would have been ripped off more by now, since we all now Hollywood's tendency. |
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Post by malicious32dll on Mar 9, 2007 11:17:42 GMT -5
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Oh no! Try and send it again? Sorry for interrupting your list! Continue...
I thought crash and Forrest Gump were amazing movies!? 
