John Waters

[criterionmaster]

What are your thoughts on this genius?

[criterionmaster]

He is one of my new favorite directors. His style of comedy is SOOO out there. I have never seen anything like it, he is just digusting. He is trying to shock but that is not all he does. In fact I heard you didn't even finish Pink Flamingos, Andruini? You can't judge it before you seen it, but really I don't think you would "get" it. It is not your style film, nor is it too many people's type of film. But for me it feels like it was made for me.

Also saw Hairspray, two way different films, one NC-17 and one PG, but you still see Waters' style present. His humor is so much out of bad taste, but he is still a genius.

Also love his soundtracks, he likes some good songs. Also Divine is KING/QUEEN/IT! R.I.P.

[criterionmaster]

Oh you missed a great ending dude! I want EVERYONE on the forum to watch this trailer, its for Pink Flamingos:

youtube.com/watch?v=UHaYqdQNJ8A

I can't find the one where they don't show a single clip from the film, but someone says it was better than the Bergman film Cries and Whispers in it. lol

Also want to post this to convince people that the film has some merit, so they don't write it off:



^It's the Criterion laserdisc that was out, I really wish they would release it on DVD!

[dontdigonswine]

That preview is awesome. I've heard a lot about Pink Flamingos, now I actually kinda want to see it. How'd you get to see it?

[criterionmaster]

I actually threw it up on my Netflix queue. It has an excellent DVD release from New Line, I believe. (Commentary, Deleted Scenes, etc.) And last time I looked it was at Borders for $12, so I will have to pick it up as well.

Thank god you liked the trailer, go in expecting so-bad-it's-good, then there is no way it will disappoint.

EDIT: Holy Jesus, its only 6 dollars at Amazon! I have to get it!

www.amazon.com/Pink-Flamingos-Nancy-Crystal/dp/B0002RQ3M0/sr=1-1/qid=1162777678/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-3966815-3693661?ie=UTF8&s=dvd

[ie]

Amazon has the best price, and if you bought something for $10, and suddenly it's $4, they'll credit you the difference. They did for me with Glengarry Glen Ross, which should find its way to another thread...

"You can't judge it before you seen it,"
Wrong. I may not always be on the mark on all of my movie reviews, but I can basically tell how a movie will be like without watching the whole thing. I haven't finished a few movies - either because I don't need to, want to, or something called me back and I never returned.

It shouldn't happen too often, but occasionally is fine.

[criterionmaster]

Well, there are some movies you can judge, but really how can you judge a movie before you finish it? I mean even if you think there will be nothing at the end, or it is terrible. What if? There is always that chance. Plus, I didn't want people to just write this off as trash, and never see it or something. I just wanted people to give it a chance. I am all fine with you judging a movie and saying I didn't see the end or whatever (you are good about that), then we know how you are rating it, but if someone didn't put that, and tried to rate a movie or something (like Andruini did), without even stating he didn't finish it, and saying it was garbage, then that is what I don't like. At least try to finish a movie to the end, even if it's complete trash, I still always someday try to finish it. If you don't finish the film then your opinion is only a partial opinion, can't be full since you only partially watched a film. If you know what I mea? What if you just walked out on Brown Bunny before the end (only example I could think of), and said it was "mediocre", and never gave it another chance? Then that wouldn't be fair. I guess my "point" is not to write Pink Flamingos off completely, just by guessing how it is going to be or anything.

[captainofbeef]

Pink Flamingos is crude, rude, and socially unacceptable. But I loved it!!! Hairspray, not so much.

[criterionmaster]

I am so surprised you love Pink Flamingos, that means there is still hope you will like Salo.

[criterionmaster]

Female Trouble (John Waters; 1974) 10/10



”Nice girls don't wear cha-cha heels.”

As I have said Water’s style is ridiculous, it is so out there. He makes movies for very few people, but the few he does make them for should adore them. This film basically has everyone that was in Pink Flamingos, which makes a Pink Flamingos fan feel at home.

The film follows a group of high school girls, one of which is played brilliantly by Divine, who makes trouble, does all the wrong things, and could care less about school. All divine wants for Christmas is a pair of “cha-cha heals,” and when she doesn’t get them in sends her into one of the funniest tirades I have ever seen, resulting in the tree crushing her mother. She then goes out and gets picked up by a dirty-looking guy, also played by Divine, and they go and have sex. So, yes, you heard me, Divine has sex with itself. She gets pregnant and has to deal with her child while modeling for two people who own a hairdressing place.

The film as you can already tell is so crazy, some of the things that happen will have you just in shock. Some of the craziest parts of the film have Divine biting the umbilical cord off of her newly born child, that it just gave birth to in it’s messy apartment, Divine getting it’s face burnt with acid, and having sex with needle-nose pliers. Also can’t forget the Bergman-tight zoom on a guys penis, now that was art.

The acting is terrible, but that is what Waters goes for with the film. He doesn’t care about the acting, which makes the film at times even funnier. But I do genuinely think Divine is a comedic genius, it’s face when it gets a carrot shoved in her mouth while having sex is hilarious.



I really like this one effect Waters’ does in his film, where he has footage shot silently and plays it in a sort of montage form. It gives a weird effect. He must use a completely different camera all together, but if I could find out how he did it I would love to do a montage like it. It works and looks awesome.

The soundtrack is fantastic. The theme, sung by Divine titled “Female Trouble” is so catchy. I am in fact singing it right now, and it has a great feel, still keeping the feel of all Waters’ other favorite songs. There are also other great tracks in the film.

The film can never touch Pink Flamingos, no film ever can, but it is a great and entertaining film. It can never match its rudeness or its originality and jaw-dropping craziness. But it is a great companion piece for the film, and especially recommended for fans of Pink Flamingos. I want to thank winterhat for recommending this film, even though I would have seen it anyways, I am glad I watched both Flamingos and this close to each other, they work perfectly together. Again don’t go into this expecting a masterpiece, it is trash, but trash in the best way possible.




I also want to say I loved the commentary on the film. Waters’ is hilarious and he tells some fantastic stories about the making of the film. Great listen! I also want everyone to check out the trailer to the film. It is great.

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LISTEN to FEMALE TROUBLE by Divine