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Post by captainofbeef on Jan 13, 2008 22:17:15 GMT -5
Since its around the time of year award talk starts to brew, I figured I would start a thread where discussion about the Oscars and other awards shows could occur.
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Post by captainofbeef on Jan 13, 2008 22:18:32 GMT -5
Here are the Golden Globe nominees and winners:
BEST MOTION PICTURE, DRAMA
"American Gangster"
"Atonement" (Winner)
"Eastern Promises"
"The Great Debaters"
"Michael Clayton"
"No Country for Old Men"
"There Will Be Blood"
BEST MOTION PICTURE, MUSICAL OR COMEDY
"Across the Universe"
"Charlie Wilson's War"
"Hairspray"
"Juno"
"Sweeney Todd" (Winner)
FOREIGN LANGUAGE PICTURE
"4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days" (Romania)
"The Diving Bell and the Butterfly" (France/USA)(Winner)
"The Kite Runner" (USA)
"Lust, Caution" (Taiwan)
"Persepolis" (France)
BEST DIRECTOR
Tim Burton, "Sweeney Todd"
Joel Coen and Ethan Coen, "No Country for Old Men"
Julian Schnabel, "The Diving Bell and the Butterfly" (Winner)
Ridley Scott, "American Gangster"
Joe Wright, "Atonement"
BEST DRAMATIC ACTOR
George Clooney, "Michael Clayton"
Daniel Day-Lewis, "There Will Be Blood" (Winner)
James McAvoy, "Atonement"
Viggo Mortensen, "Eastern Promises"
Denzel Washington, "American Gangster"
BEST DRAMATIC ACTRESS
Cate Blanchett, "Elizabeth: The Golden Age"
Julie Christie, "Away From Her" (Winner)
Jodie Foster, "The Brave One"
Angelina Jolie, "A Mighty Heart"
Keira Knightley, "Atonement"
BEST ACTOR, COMEDY OR MUSICAL
Johnny Depp, "Sweeney Todd" (Winner)
Tom Hanks, "Charlie Wilson's War"
Ryan Gosling, "Lars and the Real Girl"
Philip Seymour Hoffman, "The Savages"
John C. Reilly, "Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story"
BEST ACTRESS, COMEDY OR MUSICAL
Amy Adams, "Enchanted"
Nikki Blonsky, "Hairspray"
Helena Bonham Carter, "Sweeney Todd"
Marion Cotillard, "La Vie en Rose" (Winner)
Ellen Page, "Juno"
SUPPORTING ACTOR
Casey Affleck, "The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford"
Javier Bardem, "No Country for Old Men" (Winner)
Philip Seymour Hoffman, "Charlie Wilson's War"
John Travolta, "Hairspray"
Tom Wilkinson, "Michael Clayton"
SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Cate Blanchett, "I'm Not There" (Winner)
Saoirse Ronan, "Atonement"
Julia Roberts, "Charlie Wilson's War"
Amy Ryan, "Gone Baby Gone"
Tilda Swinton, "Michael Clayton"
ANIMATED FILM
"Bee Movie"
"Ratatouille"(Winner)
"The Simpsons Movie"
SCREENPLAY
Diablo Cody, "Juno"
Joel Coen and Ethan Coen, "No Country for Old Men" (Winner)
Christopher Hampton, "Atonement"
Ronald Harwood, "The Diving Bell and the Butterfly"
Aaron Sorkin, "Charlie Wilson's War"
ORIGINAL SCORE
Dario Marianelli, "Atonement"(Winner)
Howard Shore, "Eastern Promises"
Clint Eastwood, "Grace Is Gone"
Michael Brook, Kaki King, Eddie Vedder, "Into the Wild"
Alberto Iglesias, "The Kite Runner"
SONG
"Despedida" from "Love in the Time of Cholera"
"Grace Is Gone" from "Grace Is Gone"
"Guaranteed" from "Into the Wild" (Winner)
"That's How You Know" from "Enchanted"
"Walk Hard" from "Walk Hard"
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Post by dontdigonswine on Jan 14, 2008 16:33:44 GMT -5
So much b.s. in this again.
No Country was the clear cut winner from what I've seen (which is everything but There Will Be Blood). Atonement was a good film, but nowhere close to being perfect, and No Country is, I believe. Sweeney Todd was decent, but I think Juno deserved it, out of the nominees. The ones I'm probably most frustrated about are Best Supporting Actress and Best Director. Tilda Swinton was flat out PHENOMENAL in Michael Clayton, and I think Cate Blanchett's award involves her playing an "American icon," like so many past winners have been. The Coen brothers should have definitely won Best Director, because if No Country would have been directed by someone else, it could have been a far less suspenseful film. They were superb. American Gangster shouldn't have been nominated for anything at all, it is just entertaining pulp, and a mediocre one at that. Into the Wild and Assassination of Jesse James should have gotten more attention. It's a shame, but I guess I can't be completely pleased with everything. Best Animated Film, Best Supporting Actor, and Best Screenplay are well deserved. And Best Supporting Actor is one of the deepest categories in years (with Wilkinson and Affleck giving outstanding performances as well).
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Post by captainofbeef on Jan 14, 2008 17:44:23 GMT -5
I definitely think that No Country was robbed in the drama category. However, it was refreshing to see a foreign director, Schnabel, win the award. I've heard very good things about his film and it shows that voters weren't blinded by the subtitle barrier.
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Post by ie on Jan 14, 2008 21:31:45 GMT -5
ANIMATED FILM "Bee Movie" "Ratatouille"(Winner) "The Simpsons Movie" Kinda lame, considering to start with they had choices like Tekkonkinkreet and Persepolis but then reduced it down to some of the most generic animated choices that we as Americans could produce. At least I don't have any hate for any of the three, since I haven't seen any of them.  |
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Post by captainofbeef on Jan 14, 2008 21:38:34 GMT -5
Ratatouille was very good, I thought it was deserving enough of the award. Then again, I haven't seen either of the films you mentioned.
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Post by ie on Jan 14, 2008 21:41:04 GMT -5
Ratatouille was very good, I thought it was deserving enough of the award. Then again, I haven't seen either of the films you mentioned. I'm sure Ratatouille was fun and personally I'd rather see it win over Bee Movie or Simpsons Movie, but still, it just doesn't seem like anything that would push the envelope in terms of what animation can do, say or make you feel. Aren't those the reasons why we give out awards in the first place? Winner of Best Copy of an Unoriginal and Uninspiring Idea goes too... |
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Post by PTAhole on Jan 15, 2008 6:32:31 GMT -5
Bah. Ratatouille was a much better film than you are giving it credit for. Brad Bird is one our best filmmakers. Period. Just because it isn't amazingly original doesn't mean it isn't a great film.
Plus, Persepolis, which you mentioned, was nominated for best foreign film, which is good for animation as a medium. Animation should not be relegated strictly to its own category. Spirited Away, for example, I think deserved to win best picture a few years ago, but it was swept away to the animation category.
Anyway, the whole thing with the Golden Globes combining comedy and musical has always been very strange to me. Sweeney Todd has its dark comedic elements, but it is not a comedy. Juno certainly deserved to win there.
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Post by Clark Nova on Jan 15, 2008 19:58:53 GMT -5
...Atonement? No Country's easily the best film I've seen this decade, and one of the best i've ever seen period, and they give it to some glorified Masterpiece Theater B.S.?
And I tried watching the "ceremony" but had to turn it off after 1 presentation, just because the whole press conference format was so damn awkward. Damn writers strike. Hope the Oscars doesn't suffer the same fate.
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Post by ie on Jan 19, 2008 0:00:20 GMT -5
Sorry about that. It will take a while through the traditional routes to watch Ratatouille, though, so I'll probably rewatch Iron Giant and the Incredibles sometime to remind myself of Bird's greatness...  Oh, okay, I didn't bother to check the best foreign film section, because that's much more of a joke than having an animation category. Let's have all of our comfortable American movies, and then have these foreign movies over here. Better than nothing at all, but then you get a boring animation selection and easy-to-digest foreign movies. But still, you're right, it's great that they even featured Persepolis at all, let alone let it fight for France. (But wait, why was France represented twice and the winner a joint picture with us? Oh well. No use talking about this.) Oh and Spirited Away winning the Animated Feature of the Academy Awards was probably only a fluke in that they couldn't decide between Ice Age and Lilo and Stitch. Why do we even talk about these things if we just disapprove of them so much? I mean, sure, that just means we like esoteric movies and so we can't actually talk to "normal" people about movies, but yeah... |
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Post by Clark Nova on Jan 19, 2008 1:22:27 GMT -5
I see ie's back in his holier-than-thou mode once again.
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Post by ie on Jan 20, 2008 3:22:17 GMT -5
I see ie's back in his holier-than-thou mode once again. Perhaps somewhat true (back though?), but I responded to the personal matters through PM and would like to clarify what I meant in my previous post by asking this: Why do we always discuss movie awards when all it does is get us mad? Sure, there might be the occasional positive thought, but most of it seems negative. Why? (I'd actually kind of like to know.) |
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Post by Clark Nova on Jan 20, 2008 8:49:55 GMT -5
i actually think it's a good thing that award presentations make us mad. It'd be awfully boring if we all agreed on what should win.
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Post by ie on Jan 20, 2008 18:01:15 GMT -5
i actually think it's a good thing that award presentations make us mad. It'd be awfully boring if we all agreed on what should win. Wouldn't it be nice if actually good movies won on occasion, though? |
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Post by captainofbeef on Jan 20, 2008 18:12:40 GMT -5
Good movies win all the time, the personal favorites hardly ever win.
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Post by PTAhole on Jan 21, 2008 4:04:44 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't think Atonement looks like a piece of shit or anything.
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Post by captainofbeef on Jan 22, 2008 9:32:18 GMT -5
Academy Award Nominations Best Picture: Atonement Juno Michael Clayton No Country for Old Men There Will Be Blood Best Actor George Clooney (Michael Clayton) Daniel Day-Lewis (There Will Be Blood) Johnny Depp (Sweeney Todd) Tommy Lee Jones (In the Valley of Ellah) Viggo Mortensen (Eastern Promises) Best Actress: Cate Blanchett (Elizabeth: The Golden Age) Julie Christie (Away From Her) Marion Cotillard (La Vie en Rose) Laura Linney (The Savages) Ellen Page (Juno) Best Supporting Actor: Casey Affleck (The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford) Javier Bardem (No Country for Old Men) Phillip Seymour Hoffman (Charlie Wilson's War) Hal Holbrook (Into the Wild) Tom Wilkinson (Michael Clayton) Best Supporting Actress: Cate Blanchett (I'm Not There) Ruby Dee (American Gangster) Saoirse Ronan (Atonement) Amy Ryan (Gone Baby Gone) Tilda Swinton (Michael Clayton) Best Director: Paul Thomas Anderson (There Will Be Blood) Ethan and Joel Coen (No Country for Old Men) Tony Gilroy (Michael Clayton) Jason Reitman (Juno) Julian Schnabel (The Diving Bell and the Butterfly) Best Original Screenplay: Juno Lars and the Real Girl Michael Clayton Ratatouille The Savages Best Adapted Screenplay: Atonement Away From Her The Diving Bell and the Butterfly No Country for Old Men There Will Be Blood Best Cinematography: The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford Atonement No Country for Old Men The Diving Bell and the Butterfly There Will Be Blood Best Editing: The Bourne Ultimatum The Diving Bell and the Butterfly Into the Wild No Country for Old Men There Will Be Blood Best Art Direction: American Gangster Atonement The Golden Compass Sweeney Todd There Will Be Blood Best Costume Design: Across the Universe Atonement Elizabeth: The Golden Age La Vie en Rose Sweeney Todd Best Makeup: La Vie en Rose Norbit (  ?) Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End Best Original Score: Atonement Into the Wild Michael Clayton Ratatouille 3:10 to Yuma Best Original Song: August Rush (Raise It Up) Enchanted (Happy Working Song) Enchanted (So Close) Enchanted (That's How You Know) Once (Falling Slowly) Best Sound Achievement: The Bourne Ultimatum No Country for Old Men Ratatouille 3:10 to Yuma Transformers Best Sound Editing: The Bourne Ultimatum No Country for Old Men Ratatouille There Will Be Blood Transformers Best Visual Effects: The Golden Compass Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End Transformers Best Animated Film: Persepolis Ratatouille Surf's Up Best Foreign Film: The Counterfeiters Beaufort Mongol Katyn 12 Best Documentary: No End in Sight Operation Homecoming: Writing the Wartime Experience Sicko Taxi to the Dark Side War Dance |
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Post by captainofbeef on Jan 22, 2008 9:36:41 GMT -5
Pretty good nominations this year, in my opinion. Its nice to see some foreign films getting nomination in normal categories. I would have liked to see Eddie Vedder get nominated for best song and the fact that Norbit got a nomination all is a disgrace. Never heard of ANY of those foreign film nominations though.
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Post by Clark Nova on Jan 22, 2008 9:45:30 GMT -5
I actually like a lot of what I see...of course I gotta stock up on the major nominees before i can make any kind of valid opinion, but i do like what I see. Some pleasant surprises:
- Viggo Mortensen. I can't really say anything until I see Daniel Day-Lewis' by-far-the-favorite performance, but for my money Viggo was incredible.
- Ruby Dee. Of course Cate's gonna win, but I'm happy to see Ruby Dee's small but very impressive performance get some props.
- Ratatouille's screenplay nomination
- Persepolis. Kind of an odd "pleasant surprise" for me, considering I haven't even seen it, but nice to see the more refined foreign representation in the category, and this is coming from someone who loved The Simpsons Movie.
- 3:10 to Yuma for best score. Not your typical best Score-type score, but very well done and very fitting for that movie.
- Interesting to see what the Coens'll do if No Country wins best editing (with "Roderick Jaynes" officially listed as the editor ;D )
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And then there's Norbit...
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Post by PTAhole on Jan 22, 2008 13:59:35 GMT -5
Norbit? Are you kidding me? Still not bad nominations this year. Hopfully "Falling Slowly" wins best song, since none of those Eddie Vedder songs got nominated. More thoughts later.
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Post by dontdigonswine on Jan 22, 2008 17:13:49 GMT -5
Much better choices, I feel.
Once again, though, No Country for Old Men, Michael Clayton, and There Will Be Blood should be front runners in nearly every category.
I'd say Day Lewis is almost a lock for Best Actor at this point, deservingly, but Clooney's performance is growing on me. In fact, everything about Michael Clayton is growing on me. It is truly great filmmaking.
I really don't care about Best Actress this year at all. Best Supporting Actor has the five best performances chosen, and all just blow my freaking mind away. Bardem will win because his is the most memorable, but Holbrook's I feel is the best. Affleck's is also as haunting and heartwrenching, and Wilkinson delivers his lines probably the best out of anyone in the category. Hoffman is such a badass in Charlie Wilson's War. This is without a doubt the deepest category, performance-wise, in years.
I'm glad Ratatouille got so many nominations. Personally, I feel that Bourne should win Best Editing, but then I think about the Coens not winning, and it doesn't feel right. Swinton should win Best Supporting Actress, because she gives undeniably the best performance in the group. Surf's Up is a very strange choice for Best Animated Picture, but Ratatouille will probs win. Everything else I don't really care about.
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Post by captainofbeef on Jan 22, 2008 17:59:36 GMT -5
I really hope Cotillard wins Best Actress. Her performance is so enthralling, I just hope the voters see past the language barrier.
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Post by Clark Nova on Jan 22, 2008 18:11:54 GMT -5
I reall hope Cotillard wins Best Actress. Her performance is so enthralling, I just hope the voters see past the language barrier. they already did with Roberto Benigni, so no reason to think that should be any issue. It does look like, though, that Julie Christie's on the fast track to a win. |
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Post by captainofbeef on Jan 22, 2008 18:25:16 GMT -5
I would have no complaints if Christie won. Her performance is excellent as well, just not quite as spellbinding as Cotillard's. I wouldn't be surprised if both split the vote and Ellen Page stole that category.
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Post by captainofbeef on Jan 23, 2008 16:50:02 GMT -5
Greenwood & Vedder's Scores Ineligible for Oscar
Radiohead rocker Jonny Greenwood and Eddie Vedder both missed out on a Best Score Oscar nomination for There Will Be Blood and Into The Wild, because both soundtracks were ruled ineligible. Many Oscar watchers were left stunned when the rock stars' movie score efforts were seemingly ignored by voters, but Oscar rules left both stars compositions out of the running. Greenwood's music for There Will Be Blood missed out because officials at the Academy Of Motion Picture Arts And Sciences decided that a large part of it was not written specifically for the film, which picked up eight Oscar nominations on Tuesday . A proportion of the soundtrack was taken from Greenwood's Popcorn Superhet Receiver composition, which was commissioned by the BBC, and won him a British Composer Award in 2007. And Pearl Jam singer Vedder's soundtrack for Sean Penn Into The Wild was also deemed ineligible for an Academy Award nomination - because the score is too "song-based."
What a bunch of bullshit.
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Post by captainofbeef on Feb 25, 2008 8:53:45 GMT -5
Figured I would just post the winners:
Best Picture: No Country for Old Men
Best Actor- Daniel Day-Lewis (There Will Be Blood)
Best Actress- Marion Cotillard (La Vie en Rose)
Best Supporting Actor- Javier Bardem (No Country for Old Men)
Best Supporting Actress- Tilda Swinton (Michael Clayton)
Best Director- Joel and Ethan Coen (No Country for Old Men)
Best Original Screenplay- Diablo Cody (Juno)
Best Adapted Screenplay- Joel and Ethan Coen (No Country for Old Men)
Best Cinematography- There Will Be Blood
Best Editing- The Bourne Ultimatum
Best Art Direction- Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street
Best Costume Design: Elizabeth: The Golden Age
Best Makeup- La Vie en Rose
Best Original Score- Atonement
Best Original Song- "Falling Slowly" (Once)
Best Sound- The Bourne Ultimatum
Best Sound Editing- The Bourne Ultimatum
Best Visual Effects- The Golden Compass
Best Animated Film- Ratatouille
Best Foreign Language Film- The Counterfeiters (Austria)
Best Documentary- Taxi to the Dark Side
Best Short Documentary- Freeheld
Best Short Animated Film- Peter and the Wolf
Best Short Film- The Mozart of Pickpokets
Any opinions?
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Post by captainofbeef on Feb 25, 2008 8:55:17 GMT -5
I think this is the first time ever where I have no real complaints about the winners.
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Post by Clark Nova on Feb 25, 2008 9:02:50 GMT -5
I think this is the first time ever where I have no real complaints about the winners. yeah, good shit, especially since my upset special Marion Cotillard came through. And that picture of Roderick Jaynes just about made my night ;D |
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Post by ie on Feb 25, 2008 10:45:48 GMT -5
I'm kind of disappointed Persepolis came out with nothing, but then again, it wasn't really any good*, so I was just looking at it more as a figurehead than as a movie. You know, seeing any foreign animated movie winning big would have definitely helped make things less about "cartoons," but whatever. We'll wait for a better animated movie, I suppose.
* I thought it was decent enough when I saw it, but I disapproved of how they fudged the facts of this autobiography to make it easier to stomach, especially when it isn't required. Example: a character is killed and it causes a slight change in the main character. In the movie, the death is implied to the point where they even make reference to said character like he is still alive, and then a half hour later tell you he was dead all along. Bullshit!
Which along with a couple things I might mention, if I'm not half asleep, helped it lose to movies about rats and Nazis. Two tough crowds right there.
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Post by Clark Nova on Feb 25, 2008 12:01:53 GMT -5
you, sir, continue to not give the rat movie the credit it deserves  |
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